Part Three
Once Upon an Economy
Long Time Economics 101.
Greta Thunberg famously chided world leaders for pursuing “fairytales of eternal economic growth”. In this episode we learn how short-termism is baked into our current economic story, and why we need to change this narrative. Ella meets poet, podcaster, and economics student, GEORGE THE POET and together they visit “the belly of the beast” - The Bank Of England - and begin to reimagine a new economic storyline.
We then meet people all over the world, creating the new economic systems that work for the long-term future of all inhabitants of the planet. This is economics for people who feel like economics isn’t for them!
Special thanks to the contributors to this episode, George The Poet, Jason Hickel, Kate Raworth, Andy Haldane, Temuera Hall, Sandy Darity, Immy Kaur, Fanny Brøholm as well as Eduard Müller and Jared Bybee.
Long Time Practice: Loving Kindness for Future Generations
A Loving Kindness meditation with a Long Time twist.
This Loving-Kindness-meditation-with-a-twist asks us to generate care for people around us today and for those in the future, who have yet to be born. Co-created by Ella Saltmarshe and Headspace teacher Dora Kamau, who also reads the meditation.
We’ve designed a set of tools to put the ideas explored in this episode into practice.
SHOW NOTES
George the Poet’s latest project Common Ground encourages interaction with his Peabody Award-winning podcast Have You Heard George’s Podcast?
Jason Hickel’s important work can be found here.
Find out more about Kate Raworth’s Doughnut Economics in action here.
More about Temuera Hall’s work can be found here.
Find out more about Immy Kaur’s work here.
More about William Sandy Darity’s book From Here to Equality here.
Watch Greta Thunberg's full speech at the September 2019 UN Climate Action Summit here.
CREDITS
The series was created and produced by Lina Prestwood and Ella Saltmarshe.
Produced by Ivor Manley and Madeleine Finlay with research by Momoe Ikeda-Chelminska.
Executive producers at Headspace Studios are Ash Jones, Leah Sutherland & Morgan Selzer.
Original artwork by Mavi Morais. Design by Loz Ives & Lewis Kay-Thatcher.
Original music, sound design and mixing by Tristan Cassel-Delavois, Scott Sorenson & Chris Murguia.
Clip of Greta Thunberg at the September 2019 UN Climate Action Summit courtesy of the United Nations.
The Long Time Academy comes to you from Headspace Studios and The Long Time Project, and is produced by Scenery Studios.
Meet our guests
George the Poet
George the Poet is a London-born spoken word performer of Ugandan heritage. His innovative brand of musical poetry has won him critical acclaim both as a recording artist and social commentator and seen his work broadcast to billions of people worldwide. In the summer of 2018, he opened the Royal Wedding of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle with his poem ‘The Beauty of Union’, and in 2019, his audio offering ‘Have You Heard George’s Podcast?’ won a prestigious Peabody Award and 5 Gold British Podcast Awards, including the highly-coveted Podcast of the Year.
Jason Hickel
Jason is an economic anthropologist and author. He is Professor at the Institute for Environmental Science and Technology at the Autonomous University of Barcelona. He is Associate Editor of the journal World Development, and serves on the Statistical Advisory Panel for the UN Human Development Report, the advisory board of the Green New Deal for Europe, and the Harvard-Lancet Commission on Reparations and Redistributive Justice. Jason's research focuses on global inequality, political economy, post-development, and ecological economics, which are the subjects of his two most recent books: The Divide: A Brief Guide to Global Inequality and its Solutions, and Less is More: How Degrowth Will Save the World.
Kate Raworth
Kate is renegade economist focused on making economics fit for the 21st century. Her book Doughnut Economics: seven ways to think like a 21st century economist is an international bestseller that has been translated into 20 languages, and was long-listed for the 2017 Financial Times & McKinsey Business Book of the Year award. She is co-founder of Doughnut Economics Action Lab, working with cities, business, communities, governments and educators to turn Doughnut Economics from a radical idea into transformative action. She teaches at Oxford University’s Environmental Change Institute and is Professor of Practice at Amsterdam University of Applied Sciences.
Andy Haldane
Andrew is the Chief Executive of the Royal Society of Arts, Manufactures and Commerce (RSA). He is currently on secondment as a Permanent Secretary to the Cabinet Office, leading the UK Government’s taskforce on levelling up. Andrew was formerly the Chief Economist at the Bank of England and a member of the Bank’s Monetary Policy Committee from 2014 until 2021. He has authored around 200 articles and 4 books. Andrew is founder and trustee of Pro Bono Economics, a charity which brokers economists into charitable projects, and Vice-Chair of the charity National Numeracy.
William “Sandy” Darity Jr.
William is the Samuel DuBois Cook Professor of Public Policy, African and African American Studies, and Economics and the director of the Samuel DuBois Cook Center on Social Equity at Duke University. His research focuses on inequality by race, class and ethnicity, stratification economics, schooling and the racial achievement gap, North-South theories of trade and development, skin shade and labor market outcomes, the economics of reparations, the Atlantic slave trade and the Industrial Revolution, the history of economics, and the social psychological effects of exposure to unemployment. His most recent book, is From Here to Equality: Reparations for Black Americans in the Twenty-First Century.
Temuera Hall
Tem is the co-founder and Managing Director of TAHITO, a world first indigenous ethical investment services company. Tem is passionate about exploring pathways to draw on indigenous wisdom and values to create better contemporary societies. Tem believes that re-establishing lost connections and better integrating people with their environment are key to greater and more equitable standards of living for all communities. Tem has led or played a key leadership role in numerous significant investment collaborations and partnerships with Māori Asset Holding entities.
Imandeep Kaur
Immy is a Co - Founder and Director of CIVIC SQUARE a public square, neighbourhood lab, and creative + participatory platform focused on regenerative civic and social infrastructure within neighbourhoods. She is also an active member of Project 00 and part of the Doughnut Economics Action Lab Advisory Team. Immy was a founding director of Impact Hub Birmingham, with a mission of building a fairer more equal and just city. For her services to the city of Birmingham, Aston University’s School of Life & Heath Sciences granted Immy an Honorary Doctorate in 2019.
Fanny Brøholm
Fanny has a MSc in Environmental policy and regulation from London School of Economics. She was group leader of the Green Party called the Alternative in Copenhagen city council for 3 years and spokesperson for climate, energy and environment. Before that she worked in the Danish parliament for the Alternative as an advisor and developer of the financial policy of the party. She is currently working as a certified relationship coach and has moved to Costa Rica to build an off-grid container home near the rainforest.